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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA 
RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR 
TESTIMONY, 
Federal Grand Jury 07-103 
Federal Building 
U.S. Courthouse 
West Palm Beach, Florida 
Tuesday, April 24, 2007 
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The sworn testimony of 
was 
taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm 
Beach Division, Federal Building, U.S. Courthouse, 
Palm Beach County, State of Florida, on'Tuesday, 
April 24, 2007. 
Paula E. Angelocci, Certified Court 
Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida, 
Official Reporting Service, LLC, 524 South Andrews 
Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, 
33301, was authorized to and did report the sworn 
testimony. 
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(Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) 
THE FOREPERSON: You do solemnly swear 
that the testimony you give will be the 
truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the 
truth, so help you God? 
THE WITNESS: I do. 
THE FOREPERSON: Thank you. Please be 
seated. 
EXAMINATION 
BY III 
Q 
Good afternoon, Ms. 
. 
Could you 
state and spell your name for the record? 
A 
And where do you currently live? 
A 
I live -- do you want me to give the 
address? 
Q 
Sure. 
,'West Palm Beach, 
Florida 33412. 
Q 
Okay. And you are living with your 
parents now? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
Were you served with a subpoena to 
appear before the grand jury today? 
A 
Yes. 
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Q 
And do you understand that an order was 
signed by a judge compelling you to appear and 
answer questions? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And that order states that what you tell 
the grand jury won't be used against unless you 
perjure yourself? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
Do you understand that you are under 
oath, and if you don't tell the truth --
A 
I can go to jail, yes. 
Q 
Okay. Let's start with where you went 
to high school. 
A 
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How old are you today? 
A 
Twenty-one. 
Q 
And what is your date of birth? 
A 
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What year did you graduate from 
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2004. 
Q 
And where are you currently working? 
A 
I currently am not working. 
Q 
But you are 
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Where will that be? 
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Fort Lauderdale, Coral Springs. 
Q 
What type of position will that be? 
A 
Q 
Have you worked since the time that you 
graduated from high school? 
A 
Uh-huh. 
Q 
Can you tell the grand jury what type of 
jobs you have had? 
A 
I worked at 
worked in a club up in Orlando as 
as 
well. 
I have also worked at a sports bar as a 
waitress. 
Q 
when you were in high school, where did 
you work? 
A 
and 
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And do you know Jeffrey Epstein? 
A 
Yes, I do.. 
Q 
Can you tell the grand jury how you 
first came to meet Mr. Epstein? 
A 
I met Epstein through two acquaintances, 
and 
, and I met them at a beach resort. 
They made a proposition to me. 
Later then I 
picked them up and they gave me directions to the 
house and that's where I was formerly introduced 
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to Mr. Epstein. 
Q . 
Okay. And Let me just go back over that 
a little bit. You mentioned that you had two 
acquaintances, 
and 
, and you met them at 
a beach resort, correct? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And you said that they made a 
proposition to you. What was that exactly? 
A 
had asked me if I wanted to make 
money and she was working for this guy, Epstein, 
in Palm Beach. So I told her I was interested and 
she further went into detail about massaging him, 
that you would have to take off articles of 
clothing and there would be touching and fondling 
involved. 
Q 
How old were you when this happened? 
A 
About 16. 
Q 
And how old was 
A 
Same age. 
Q 
And how did you know MIF 
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We went to 
together. 
Q 
And she was in your same grade in high 
school? 
A 
Yeah. 
Q 
And you mentioned that 
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previously worked for Epstein or was currently 
working for Epstein? 
A 
Yes, that's right. 
Q 
So they explained this proposal to you 
and you said that you would be interested? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
What happened next? 
A 
Within a couple of days to a week I 
picked them up and I went to his house to work for 
him and I was introduced to 
, who is his 
assistant. She took me upstairs to Epstein's 
bedroom and that's where the massage took place. 
I was naked and he tried fondling me and 
I wouldn't have it, so after the massage he gave 
me another proposition to bring girls to the house 
and for every girl that I brought I would make 
$200. 
Q 
All right. We'll go back over that a 
little more slowly. 
I know this is a lot of 
information. So let's go back to the proposition 
that 
and 
made to you. 
Did they say you would be paid for 
massaging Mr. Epstein? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And how much would you be paid? 
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$200. 
Q 
Now you said that they had told you that 
you might have to take your clothing off? 
A 
They told me that I was expected to take 
my clothing off and that there would be fondling. 
Q 
Okay. And what -- did they explain 
what fondling meant? 
A 
Just that he'd be touching me. 
Q 
Okay. 
And so you agreed to do that and 
you went to Mr. Epstein's home? 
A 
Correct. 
Q 
And where was that located? 
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Palm Beach, Brillo Way. 
Q 
B-R-I-L-L-O? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And when you arrived at the home, you 
said that you were driving with 
and IIII? 
A 
That is correct. 
Q 
Tell us how you got into the house. 
A 
We went through a gate on the side of 
the house that led to the back and we just rang 
the doorbell and 
answered the door and we 
were standing in the kitchen and then 
brought me upstairs. 
Q 
Okay. Now did you have any -- did 
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tell you anything about what you would do when you 
got upstairs? 
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No, she never discussed that with me. 
Q 
Did she say anything to you about taking 
your clothes off? 
A 
No, she never discussed that with me. 
Q 
Okay. 
When you arrived upstairs, you 
said that you went into a bedroom? 
A 
That is correct. 
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Q 
What was in the bedroom? 
A 
It was a bedroom that had a door that 
led to then I want to say a bigger more than just 
a bathroom. It was a bigger room with like a 
pretty large size walk-in closet, a shower, a 
steam shower, and then two sinks. on the right, and 
in the middle laid the massage table, and then to 
the left there was two couches. 
Q 
And so the massage table was already set 
up when you arrived? 
A 
That is correct. 
Q 
Okay. 
And after 
bedroom, what did she do? 
led you up to the 
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She had left and that's when Epstein 
came in. 
Q 
Okay. And when Mr. Epstein came in, 
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what was he wearing? 
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He was wearing a towel. 
Q 
Okay. And nothing else? 
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Nothing else. 
Q 
And what did he do? 
A 
He laid on the table and that's when the 
massage began and later on he -- when he got in, I 
took off my clothes and I was just wearing my 
bottoms, and he later tried to touch me and he 
grabbed my butt, and that's when. I had a problem. 
I told him that I didn't feel comfortable. 
So later he took the towel off and he 
was laying on his back and he 
asking me to 
and then after that everything 
was done. 
Q 
Okay. So when Mr. Epstein 
then the massage or whatever was over? 
A 
Yes, it was. 
Q 
And once that happened, what did he do? 
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Just got up and dried himself off and 
then walked me downstairs. 
Q 
And you got dressed as well? 
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That's right. 
Q 
And when you got back downstairs, what 
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happened? 
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I went back into the kitchen and he 
pulled 
and 
aside and then we just left. 
Of course, I got paid. 
Q 
Okay. And tell us where you got paid, 
who paid you, and how much you received? 
A 
Epstein paid me. 
I received 200, but I 
cannot recall if it was upstairs that he paid me 
or if he waited until I got back downstairs. 
Q 
Okay. And when he paid you the $200,
was it in small bills, large bills? 
A 
Big bills, 100s. 
Q 
Okay. So two 100 dollar bills. 
And you 
said that he pulled 
and 
aside. Do you 
know what that was about? 
A 
He would never pay them in front of me. 
He always was funny about that. So I'm sure it 
was just paying them for bringing me. 
Q 
Okay. 
And you mentioned that you told 
Mr. Epstein that you were uncomfortable with him 
touching you? 
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That's correct. 
Q 
And what bec.ame of that? 
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Later on before I left he had addressed 
me to not massage him anymore, but asked me if I 
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could bring girls over, and for every girl that I 
brought to the table he would pay me $200. 
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Okay. So you weren't comfortable with 
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No. 
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He wanted you to find other girls? 
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That's correct. 
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And he wanted girls that would let him 
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Uh-huh. 
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After that first massage, did you 
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Absolutely not.. 
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Did you bring girls? 
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That's correct. 
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Tell us how you started to bring girls 
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to Mr. Epstein's house. 
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Just girls that I met in high school, 
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acquaintances, people that I just said hi and bye 
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A lot of them actually heard about it through 
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a couple of girls that I brought and they were 
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interested. 
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Some of the girls asked me about it. 
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Just girls in school I'd talk to, just get on the 
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subject. They had no problem with it. 
Q 
Okay. So when you found a girl that you 
thought would be interested, what exactly would 
you tell her? 
A 
I asked them if they were interested in 
making extra money and that I knew an older 
wealthier man in Palm Beach who liked to have 
massages and they would get paid $200. 
The more they did, the more they make, 
and I would explain to them in detail what was 
expected of them when they showed up at the house 
and I also told them that if they are under age 
just lie about it and tell him that you are 18 
Q 
Let's talk first about what you said 
that you tell them what was expected of them. 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
First of all, why did you tell them 
that? 
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Because that's what I was told 
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By whom? 
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and 
Q 
Okay. And did Jeffrey Epstein ever 
address you about don't bring girls over here if 
they don't know what's going to happen? 
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Absolutely. 
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Okay. So all the girls were supposed to 
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know that when they got there they would be 
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They would be undressing. There would 
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very big on that. He told me never to bring a 
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Okay. And did you also tell them that 
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I didn't really talk to them about that. 
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I didn't know if he did it with everybody or it 
was just with me that he did that. 
Q 
But you told them that they all would 
have to be partially naked or fully naked? 
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Partially to fully naked and there would 
be touching and fondling. 
Q 
Okay. How many girls do you think you 
took to Mr. Epstein's house? 
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Seven, between seven to ten. 
Q 
Okay. And were there any -- in addition 
to this rule about the girls had to know what was 
expected, did Mr. Epstein have any other rules in 
terms of what the girls looked like or what he 
liked? 
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No. 
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Okay. Were there girls that you brought 
that he didn't like? 
A 
There were a few girls he wasn't crazy 
about. He didn't really like. He didn't favor. 
for instance, 23, he thought she was kind 
of too old. 
Q 
Okay. So you brought a girl named 
who was 23 years old? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And you were told that she was too old? 
A 
Yes.
Q 
Did you ever bring her back? 
A 
No. 
Q 
What about any other girls that he 
didn't like? 
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This other girl T went to high school 
with, III, she was maybe a year younger, and him 
and her got 
. I told 
her in detail what was expected and she, to me, 
was all for it and then when she got there, 
decided she didn't want to perform what was 
necessary. So they got 
and after that I never really brought her 
Q 
Okay. 
And did either Jeffrey Epstein 
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say anything to you about what happened 
with III? 
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He had made a comment just about 
had asked -- he had asked me for someone to come 
over and work and when I suggested III, he kind of 
nodded, not really interested. He told me to find 
somebody else. So I assumed that meant he really 
didn't care for her. 
Q 
Okay. Now the -- you mentioned 
who was 23. What was the age range of the other 
girls that you brought to Mr. Epstein's home? 
A 
High school, 16 to 18. 
Q 
Were there any girls who were younger 
than that? 
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Yes. 
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And how was she? 
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She was 14. 
Who was that? 
Q 
Okay. Now you were interviewed by the 
Palm Beach Police Department? 
A 
That's correct. 
Q 
And during that interview, you told them 
that there were two ways to make money with 
Jeffrey Epstein. Can you explain to the grand 
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jury what those two ways are? 
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The more you did is the more you make. 
Basically, the more clothes that come off, the 
more you let him touch you, the more you just let 
him have his way with you is the more that you 
would make, otherwise, you would be demoted down 
to bringing girls over and just making money that 
way. 
Q 
And that's what you were doing? 
A 
That's correct. 
Q 
Was bringing girls? 
A 
That's correct. 
Q 
If you could explain to the grand jury 
how you would go about making an appointment for a 
girl to come and give a massage? 
A 
His assistant there would call me either 
before they got into town or while he was in town 
and either she would ask me for a particular girl, 
preferably one that he favored, or if I couldn't 
get a hold of that girl just bring somebody over 
to work. 
I would call the girl. She would okay 
it. 
I would call 
back, confirm it, set an 
appointment, and then the next couple of days we'd 
go. 
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And was 
the person that you always 
made the appointment with? 
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Always. 
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Do you remember ever talking to Jeffrey 
Epstein on the telephone? 
A 
Never. The only time I talked to him 
was physically in person at his house. 
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Okay. 
was really the person that 
you had to•--
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Deal with. 
Q 
Okay. Now you mentioned that sometimes 
would request a specific girl? 
A 
That's correct. 
Q 
Did she give you any reason why he 
really liked this girl or just is this girl 
available? What would happen on those calls? 
A 
If it was a specific girl, she would 
call me and just ask: Can this girl work? She 
would never give me a reason. She would never go 
into detail. It was just: Can she work, yes or 
no? 
work? 
Q 
And 
was saying to you can she 
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I can't recall if those were her exact 
words. I can't remember if it•was: Can she come 
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Okay. And once you made those 
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I would. 
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Okay. And you would drive? 
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I would drive. 
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And were all -- wa's this always taking 
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Yes. 
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On Brillo Way? 
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That's correct. 
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When you spoke with 
on the 
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were all of these 
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when I would talk to 
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Yes. It would be pure business whenever 
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So you didn't have any sort of friendly 
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No friendly relationship, never 
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Okay. Now when you would bring a new 
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to come in or Jeffrey. Most of the time 
it was 
would bring the girl upstairs 
while I waited downstairs. After the massage, the 
girl would come downstairs. I would get paid and 
then we would leave. 
Q 
Tell us how you would get paid when you 
were the person who brought the girls. 
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What do you mean how I would get paid? 
Q 
Who would pay you? 
A 
Jeffrey Epstein would pull me aside 
whether it be in his, I guess, living room slash 
office. He would just make sure that when he paid 
me, it was just me and him, nobody else was 
around. 
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And how much would you get paid for each 
girl? 
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$200-
Q
And again with the two 100 dollar bills? 
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Always 100 dollar bills. 
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Did you ever see the girl who actually 
did the massages get paid? 
A 
No, I never saw them get paid. He never 
paid us in front of each other 
Q 
Okay. Did the girls ever tell you that 
they did get paid or how much they got paid? 
A 
Most of the time. 
Q 
Okay. And how much money would each 
girl get paid? 
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It ranges. 
Q 
From? 
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It ranges from 200 to some got paid 300. 
Like I said, the more you do, the more you make. 
There were a couple of girls that got paid 300, 
400, and then there were a couple of girls that 
got paid 200 maybe even 100. 
Q 
Now you mentioned that usually 
would take the girl upstairs? 
A 
That's correct. 
Q 
Were there ever instances where you took 
the girl upstairs? 
A 
Very rarely. I think it happened once 
or twice where 
was doing something or she 
would need me to go upstairs and set up. 
I would 
just go upstairs. 
I would show her where the 
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massage table was. 
I would set it up for them. 
I would 
show them where the towels were, put the towels on 
the massage table and then I would tell them 
Jeffrey would be in, in a minute and then I would 
walk back downstairs and wait in the kitchen. 
Q 
Okay. And when you were in these other 
instances where you led the girl upstairs, besides 
the massage table, did you ever see any other 
implements that were used during the massage? 
A 
I think there were maybe a few occasions 
where I would walk upstairs to show the girl or 
maybe it was even when I first massaged him, there 
was like a white 
jury? 
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Q 
And can you describe that to the grand 
A 
What it looked like? 
Q 
What it looked like, yes. 
A 
The 
the top of it was 
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It was really 
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I think 
maybe like pink. It was
that's all I remember. 
Q 
Okay. And did any of the girls ever 
tell you that that 
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names of some girls that you brought just to 
confirm with the grand jury that you brought them. 
A 
Okay. 
A 
That's correct. 
Q 
A 
Correct. 
A 
Correct. 
Q 
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Yes. 
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Yes. 
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Yes. 
Q 
And then there is another girl, 
A 
never, ever, ever worked for 
Jeffrey. She accompanied me to his house I think 
once or twice and waited in the kitchen with me, 
but she never worked for him. 
Q 
Okay. But she was somebody that you 
brought along with you? 
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That is correct. 
Q 
On visits? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
Okay. In addition to those girls 
that -- who I just named, you mentioned a woman, 
, who is 23? 
A 
Uh-huh. 
Q 
Were there any other girls that you 
recall bringing to Jeffrey Epstein's house? 
A 
I cannot recall bringing anybody else. 
Q 
Okay. Now one of those girls that we 
mentioned .was 
correct? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And you told the police that Jeffrey 
liked 
the best? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
How old was 
A 
She was around the same age as me, maybe 
a grade lower than me. 
Q 
Okay.  So she was under age? 
A 
Yes, correct. 
Q 
And all of those girls who names I read 
were under age when you brought them there? 
A 
Except for 
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Okay. What did 
look like? 
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was 
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but she's 
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had a 
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Q 
Was she thin or heavy? 
A 
No. She was maybe -- she had a 
figure, maybe a little 
than me. 
Q 
And how tall do you think she was? 
A 
About 5'5, 5'6. 
Q 
Okay. And you knew that Jeffrey liked 
because he would specifically request her? 
A 
There was a few occasions that he would 
specifically ask for her, correct. 
Q 
Okay. And you mentioned that some of 
the girls told you about the 
correct? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
Did some of girls tell you what happened 
inside of that bedroom? 
A 
A few of them did. 
Q 
Let's talk first about 
A 
Okay. 
Q 
Did she tell you what happened? 
A 
All that she really told me was that 
they got into 
. He had tried 
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fondling her. She wasn't having it, and then she 
only got paid $100 and she felt like she was being 
ripped off. 
Q 
Okay. What about 
, did 
she tell you about what happened? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
What did she explain to you? 
A 
, on the way home, had told me she 
got paid $300, and basically let him 
and 
Q 
Okay. And she told you those things? 
A 
She told me those things. 
Q 
That he had 
and 
had 
? 
A 
That's correct. 
Q 
Okay. And that was -- when did she tell 
you that? 
A 
Right when we got outside into the 
truck. 
Q 
As you were driving away? 
A 
That's correct. 
Q 
Do you remember which other girls told 
you about the 
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I can't recall. I know there was 
another one that said something about the 
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massager, but I wasn't really paying attention. 
Q 
Now when you first went and gave Mr. 
Epstein the massage, did he ask for your telephone 
number after you were finished? 
A 
No, 
did. 
did. And she took down your 
telephone number? 
A 
She took down my name and my telephone 
number. 
• 
After that, how was all contact made 
with you? 
A 
• 
Directly to you? 
A 
Directly toward me. 
Q 
Okay. So were there any more instances 
where she went either through 
or 
to 
reach you? 
A 
Absolutely not. 
Q 
Okay. Now when you brought girls over 
was it the same thing where they would ask for the 
girl's name and number? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
And when that happened, would they 
continue to go through you to set up appointments? 
A 
Most of time they went through me. 
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Actually 99.9 percent of the time they went 
through me. On a few occasions, the girls that 
they liked the best, for instance, 
, after 
a while me and 
stopped contact with each 
other and Jeffrey just went strictly through her. 
Q 
Okay. And when an appointment was made 
directly with the girl, you wouldn't necessarily 
know about it? 
A 
I would not necessarily know about it. 
Q 
And when the appointment was made 
directly with the girl then you wouldn't get paid, 
correct? 
A 
Correct. 
Q 
Did you hear or do you know whether some 
girls that you brought, brought more girls? 
A 
Yeah, I'm sure of it. 
Q 
Okay. When did you first meet 
Was it that day that you went to give the 
massage? 
A 
That's correct. 
Q 
And how did you first meet her? 
A 
Just walking in the kitchen and waiting 
for somebody whether it be Epstein or 
came and introduced herself as 
and I 
learned that she was Epstein's assistant. 
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And you said that she was the one who 
took you upstairs on the first day? 
A 
That's correct. 
Q 
And we were talking earlier about how 
appointments would be made for you to bring 
additional girls, correct? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
How far in advance would 
call you 
to make appointments? 
A 
It depends. Sometimes she would call me 
a few days in advance. Jeffrey is going to be in 
town tomorrow or this weekend, have a couple of 
girls lined up or have a girl lined up. So it 
would be anywhere between a couple of days to a 
weekend. 
Q 
Okay. Did you ever talk with 
or 
did 
ever tell you anything about what 
Jeffrey liked to do with the girls? 
A 
Absolutely not. 
We never discussed 
that. 
Q 
Did you ever talk with her about a rumor 
that you had heard that a girl had intercourse 
with Jeffrey? 
A 
One day I was talking on the phone with 
and I addressed her with it, asking her 
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about a rumor I heard of a girl sleeping with 
Jeffrey, having intercourse, and making $1 ,000, 
and she denied it and said that he doesn't do that 
kind of thing, he just plays with them. 
Q 
Okay. So she said that he didn't have 
intercourse, he just liked to play with the girls? 
A 
That's correct. 
Q 
And when you spoke with the police, you 
said that Jeffrey liked to 
A 
That's correct. 
Q 
What led you to believe that? 
A 
He just did it. I just learned that 
Epstein just 
. It was like the new thing for him, and 
it just started happening and more and more girls 
were making comments. 
Q 
So did 
know that he was 
A 
Not that I know of. I didn't say 
anything and I don't think she had an idea. I 
think she knew there was playing going on. 
I 
don't think she knew of what sort. 
Q . 
Okay. So she knew that something sexual 
was going on., but not necessarily what that 
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entailed? 
A 
Correct. 
Q 
Okay. Did Jeffrey or 
or anyone 
else who worked for Mr. Epstein ever ask you for 
proof of someone's age? 
A 
Never. 
Q 
Did they ever specifically instruct you 
that you shouldn't bring girls who were under age 
to the house? 
A 
Never. 
Q 
And when you spoke with the police 
department you said that at some point Jeffrey 
said the younger the better? 
A 
That's correct. 
Q 
And even after that he never said to you 
but make sure that they are over 18? 
A 
We never discussed age. He never made a 
comment about age except for 
that one time 
about her being too old. He never told me to go 
find under aged girls, but at the same time never 
said make sure they are over 18. It was never 
discussed. 
Q 
Okay. All right. 
I'm going to ask you to 
step outside for a minute and I will find out 
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if the grand jury has questions. Thank you 
very much. 
(Witness exits the Grand Jury Room.) 
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(Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) 
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I have to remind you that 
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follow-up questions. The first one is something 
that I think you spoke about earlier, but who 
first asked you to find other girls? 
A 
Who first asked me to first other girls? 
Q 
Yes. 
A 
That would be Epstein. 
Q 
Okay. So Jeffrey asked you himself, 
Jeffrey Epstein himself asked you? 
A 
Yes. 
Q 
Okay. And then the other question was: 
Are you currently in contact with anyone who works 
for Mr. Epstein or himself? 
A 
I don't talk to any of the females that 
I once brought over there. I haven't been in 
contact with Epstein for years. He tried 
contacting me a few times. 
I haven't contacted him back. I refuse 
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to talk to him. 
I refuse to talk to any of the 
girls that were involved. However, I did live 
with one of the girls in Orlando for a couple 
months to a year. 
I haven't spoken to her in over 
a year either. 
Q 
Okay. So after 
and just so the grand 
jury has a sense here, we are talking about the 
2004 to 2005 period is when you were bringing 
girls over? 
A 
That's correct. 
Q 
So since then 
A 
I don't -- to be honest with you, I 
think it was more 2003, 2004. 
Q 
Okay. 
A 
My junior senior year. 
Q 
Okay. But anyhow it .was a couple of 
years ago? 
A 
Several years ago. 
Q 
Okay. 
Is there any follow up 
on either of those points? Yes, 
A GRAND JUROR: Was it Jeffrey Epstein 
himself trying to contact you or 
THE WITNESS: I don't know if it wasliim 
directly. 
I know that his number showed up 
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on my house phone. I'm assuming because 
gill. was there, I'm assuming that she is the 
one that has been trying to contact me in the 
past years. Epstein never talked directly to 
me on the phone. 
: 
Any other follow up? 
Okay. Thank you, IIIIII 
Thank you for 
coming. 
(Witness was excused.) 
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Reporter and Notary Public, do certify that the 
transcript is a true and correct transcription of 
my stenotype notes of the testimony of 
taken before the Federal Grand Jury, 
West Palm Beach, Florida. 
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