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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 
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SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF 
WEST PALM BEACH 
FLORIDA 
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IN RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR 
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Grand Jury #07-103 (TUES-wPB) 
west Palm Beach, Florida 
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Tuesday, May 15, 2007 
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TESTIMONY 
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APPEARANCE: 
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. ATTORNEY 
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NANCY SIEGEL, COURT RE 
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PROCEEDINGS 
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The sworn testimony of. 
was taken 
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before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, 
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701 Clematis Street, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach County, 
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state of Florida, on the 15th day of May, 2007. 
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NANCY SIEGEL, Registered Merit Reporter and Notary 
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Public was authorized to and did report the sworn 
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testimony. 
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Thereupon, 
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a witness of lawful age, having been first duly sworn by 
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the foreperson, testified on her oath as follows: 
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BY 
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Good morning, Special Agent. Could you state 
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and spell your name for the record. 
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Special Agent II 
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And with whom do you work? 
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The FBI here in West Palm Beach. 
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And are you here today on the continuing 
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investigation known as Operation Leap Year? 
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Yes, I am. 
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And you are one of the case agents on this 
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investigation, correct? 
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Yes, I am. 
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The last time you were here we were discussing 
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the evidence supporting various overt acts and charges 
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related to Jane Does number 1 and 2? 
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Yes. 
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Today we are going to start with Jane Doe 
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number 3. Can you tell the Grand Jury who that is and 
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summarize briefly your previous testimony about her. 
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Jane Doe number 3 is 
I and she first 
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started, we have first phone contact with 
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starting in December of 2004, IIIIIII would have been 16 
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or 17 at that time, let me do the math real quick, she 
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would have been 16 -- sorry, I am sorry, she would have 
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been at that time 17, let's get it right, so she started 
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phone contact, 
started calling her in 
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September of 2004. 
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From testimony we know that 
went there 
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earlier, much earlier. 
I, which was Jane Doe 
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number 4 you will hear about next, they were good 
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friends and they both went in the spring of '04, prior 
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to 
17th birthday, so 
did start giving 
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mr. Epstein massages when she was 16, she performed a 
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few massages for Mr. Epstein and then took kind of a 
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little bit of a break. 
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The sexual activity that occurred with 
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Mr. Epstein when 
was under the age of 18 
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included 
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she was given gifts by Mr. Epstein, she was 
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given a 
, she was given Victoria Secret 
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underwear, she was also given a car that Mr. Epstein 
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rented for her for a number of months, she was paid $200 
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by Mr. Epstein and 
was the one that primarily 
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called 
to set up appointments and as you can see 
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that began in December of '04. 
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was also one of Mr. Epstein's 
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favorites, according to several of the other girls. 
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Just so the Grand Jury has an idea, how does 
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that translate into the number of phone calls between 
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and 
that you were able to calculate? 
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called her, I guess calls between 
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the two of them ranged around 125 phone calls from 
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December 6th, 2004 until October, 2005. 
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Q 
And just briefly can you remind the Grand Jury 
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did 
ever tell Mr. Epstein her age? 
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No, they did not ever discuss, she did not 
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tell him how old she was, but she did tell him where she 
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planned on going to school and that she was in 
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she stated that when it came to her age that 
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Mr. Epstein didn't care. As I mentioned earlier, 
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and IIIIIII were very good friends and IIIII would talk 
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about IIIIIII and Mr. Epstein would ask questions about 
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when IIIII was providing massages and as we will 
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talk about when we talk about Jane Doe number 4, which 
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is 
, she told Mr. Epstein that she was a junior in 
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high school and that 
and her were in the 
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and that they were 
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and 
told us that at one point IIIII had come to 
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her because she had slipped about prom and she was 
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worried because Epstein was supposed to think she was 18 
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and she had talked about the prom and 
said she 
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never heard anything else about it and they never 
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brought it up. 
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Because, according to 
, Mr. Epstein 
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didn't care really how old the girls were? 
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Exactly. 
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And she never mentioned he asked her for her 
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age or asked for any form of identification to show 
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whether she was or was not over 18? 
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No. 
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Q 
Now, if you could turn to the proposed 
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indictment and if I could ask you to look at overt act 
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number 59. 
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we had a little knock at the door 
Do you 
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want me to get it? 
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Yes. 
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(Thereupon, there was a brief pause.) 
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I will let you see a picture of Jane Doe 
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number 4, 
, who we were talking about earlier, and 
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this is 
. Is there anyplace you want to put it 
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right down here in front? 
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And just so the record is clear, those are the 
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photographs that we showed to the Grand Jury last week? 
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Yes, it is. 
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So if you could turn to overt act number 59 
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which appears on page 12, and if you could explain to 
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the Grand Jury the evidence we have related to that 
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phone call or phone calls on December 6th, 2004. 
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On December 6th, 2004 a review of the phone 
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records indicate that there was telephonic phone contact 
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between the numbers belonging to 
and 
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, as well as we have evidence with 
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statements of the phone calls being made to 
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her by 
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And overt act number 60? 
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A review of the phone records indicate 
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telephonic contact between the numbers belonging to 
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and 
on December 12, 2004. 
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And overt act number 64? 
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A review of the phone records indicate 
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telephonic contact between numbers belonging to IIIII 
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IIIIII and M= 
en December 14th, 2004. 
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And just so that it is clear to the Grand 
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Jury, when the overt acts says that defendant IIIIII 
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made one or more telephone calls, that means that the 
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call is originating from IIIII 
phone, is that 
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correct? 
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Yes, it does. 
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And if you could turn to overt act number 71. 
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On December 20th a review of the phone records 
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indicate that there was telephonic contact between III'S 
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and 
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And overt act number 79? 
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On January 6th, 2005 a review of phone records 
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indicate there was telephone contact between numbers 
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belonging to 
and 
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And number 83? 
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On January 14th, 2005 a review of the phone 
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records indicate telephonic contact between numbers 
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belonging to 
and 
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And with respect to the other overt acts 
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related to the phone calls which would be 94, 100, 102, 
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104, 112, 118, 125, 129 and 132 is the evidence the 
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same? 
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Yes, on or about each of those dates a review 
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of the phone records indicated telephonic contact 
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between the numbers belonging to 
and 
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as well as 
statements. 
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Now, if I could direct your attention to Count 
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number 7 which appears on page 26 of the draft 
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indictment, that is a charge of indictment of a minor 
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during the period of December 6th, 2004 through June 2nd 
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of 2005, could you summarize for the Grand Jury the 
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evidence related to that count. 
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On or about these dates the facility of 
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interstate commerce, the telephone, specifically 
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and 
were utilized to set up 
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appointments, massage appointments for Epstein. 
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During the massages and on more than one 
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occasion Epstein 
, he 
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used a 
and Epstein 
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directed 
to straddle him while he 
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and 
, he would 
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, he would 
as she was 
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straddling him, there was 
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, though. 
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He touched 
breasts, he would 
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He paid 
on multiple occasions $200. 
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Both 
and Jeffrey Epstein have escorted 
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upstairs for these massages and Mr. Epstein gave 
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, victoria secret bra and panty sets 
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and he also rented her a car for several months. 
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And just so that it is clear, you mentioned he 
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paid her on several occasions, he paid her every time 
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she performed these lewd acts, correct? 
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ves, 8200. 
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And 
is listed as a defendant with 
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respect to Jane Doe number 3 as well, and can you 
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explain to the Grand Jury a little bit more about who 
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is and why she is charged in this count? 
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IIIIIII 
is one of Mr. Epstein's personal 
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assistants as well and she made appointments for him for 
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these massages. 
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we have contact between 
phone 
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and 
phone, she contacted 
approximately 
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25 times. 
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And that's why she is also charged with 
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someone who is either an aider or abetter or a 
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coconspirator with respect to this? 
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ves. 
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Okay. If I could direct your attention to 
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count number 32 which appears on page 30, count number 
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32. 
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I got 32. 
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what is the evidence related to? 
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I am sorry, I didn't hear you ask me the 
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question, I thought you said refer to it. 
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The evidence is we have flight records that 
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indicate on December 13th, 2004 Epstein traveled to Palm 
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Beach County on the Gulfstream, there was telephonic 
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contact between 
and 
the day 
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before or the day of travel, we also have the sexual 
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conduct between Jeffrey Epstein and 
as we 
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described earlier in Count 7. 
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And just to refresh the recollection of the 
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Grand Jury, the Gulfstream aircraft is the one owned by 
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Hyperion? 
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Air, Inc. 
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And when you said that there was telephone 
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contact, you recall that in overt act number 60 that we 
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discussed phone calls on December 12th, correct? 
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we did. 
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Okay. If I could direct you to count number 
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35 and if you could tell the Grand Jury about the 
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evidence according to that count. 
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Again, we have flight records that indicate 
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that on January 6th, 2005 Epstein traveled to Palm Beach 
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County on the Gulfstream again, there was telephonic 
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contact between 
and 
the day before, 
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the day of that travel, we also talked about the sexual 
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conduct between Jeffrey and MEM, 
between Epstein and 
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And can you tell us again what aircraft they 
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flew on on January 6th? 
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That was the Gulfstream which was owned by 
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Hyperion Air, Inc. 
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okay. If I could direct you to Count 36 and 
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again if you could summarize that evidence. 
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we have flight records that indicate that on 
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January 14th, 2005 Epstein, 
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traveled to 
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Palm Beach county on the Boeing 727 that Mr. Epstein 
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owns, there was telephonic contact between 
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and 
the day before, the day of that 
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travel, as well as we have the sexual conduct between 
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Jeffrey Epstein and 
as we described 
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earlier, and I will tell you that 
is --
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, Mr. Epstein's personal assistant, and 
is 
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we talked about just a few minutes ago, 
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Mr. Epstein, another of Mr. Epstein's personal 
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assistants. 
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And if I could direct your attention to Count 
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37 and ask you to summarize the evidence related to that 
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count. 
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we have flight records that indicate that on 
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February 3rd, 2005 Mr. Epstein and 
traveled 
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to Palm Beach County on the Boeing 727, there was 
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telephonic contact between 
and 
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the day before or the day of travel and we have 
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the sexual conduct between Epstein and 
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And if I could direct your attention to Count 
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number 38. 
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In count number 38 we have flight records that 
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indicate on February 10th, 2005 Mr. Epstein, 
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and 
traveled to 
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Palm Beach County on the Gulfstream, there was telephone 
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contact between 
and 
the day 
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before or the day of travel, we also have the sexual 
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conduct between Mr. Epstein and 
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Now, I am sorry, on count number 38, which 
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airline were they on? 
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They were on the Gulfstream. 
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Can I ask you to double-check that? There is 
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an inconsistency between the chart and the indictment or 
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we can save that for a later date. 
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It is right here. 
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I will mark that we need to check on Count 
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number 38. 
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I have the flight manifest with me if you want 
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me to check, I don't know if you want me to do that now. 
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Yes, if you don't mind. 
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In Count 38, flight records indicate on 
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February 10th, 2005 that Mr. Epstein, IIIII 
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IIIIIII 
and IME 
were in fact on the 
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Boeing 727. 
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So the draft indictment contains the correct 
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information? 
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Yes, it does. 
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what company owns the Boeing 727? 
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JEGE, Inc., Incorporated. 
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And if I could take you to Count number 39. 
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Evidence shows through flight records that on 
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February 21st, 2005 Epstein, 
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and 
traveled to Palm Beach county on 
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the Boeing 727, there was telephonic contact between 
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and 
the day before or the day 
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of travel, there was also the sexual conduct between 
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Epstein and 
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And if I could take you to count number 40, 
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please. 
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we have flight records that indicate on 
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February 24th, 2005 Epstein, 
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traveled to Palm Beach County on the Boeing 
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727, there was telephonic contact between 
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and 
the day before, the day of travel, and 
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there was sexual conduct between Jeffrey Epstein and 
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as we described earlier in Count 7. 
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And if you could do Count 42. 
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We have evidence that shows flight records, 
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that flight records indicate that on March 18th, 2005 
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Epstein traveled to Palm Beach County on the Boeing 727, 
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there was telephonic contact between 
and 
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the day of or the day before travel, we 
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have the sexual conduct between Mr. Epstein and 
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And just referring to that count, 
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is named, although she was not on the flight that day, 
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is that correct? 
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Yes. 
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And you said that she made the telephone calls 
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with 
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Yes, and we also do have -- we have 
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interviewed Mr. Epstein's pilots and one of the pilots 
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indicated that 
was the one that arranged all of 
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Mr. Epstein's travel arrangements and so she is 
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responsible for making his arrangements to travel to 
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Palm Beach as well as call the girls for the 
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appointments. 
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If I could take you to Count number 43, 
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please. 
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Flight records indicate that on March 31st, 
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2005 mr. Epstein traveled to Palm Beach County on the 
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Boeing 727, there was telephonic contact between IIIII 
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IIIIII and SIM 
the day before or the day of travel, 
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we also have the sexual conduct between Epstein as 
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IIIIIII described earlier in Count 7. 
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Again, in Count 44, what is the evidence 
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related to that? 
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Flight records indicate that on April 8th, 
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2005 Epstein and 
traveled to Palm Beach 
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county on the Gulfstream and there was telephonic 
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contact between IIIII 
and 
on the 
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day before or the day of travel, we also have the sexual 
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conduct between Mr. Epstein and 
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And if you could go through 45, 46 and 47. 
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Count 45 we have flight records that indicate 
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on April 27th, 2005 Epstein and 
traveled to 
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Palm Beach County on the Gulfstream, there is telephone 
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contact between 
and 
the day 
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before or the day of travel and we have the sexual 
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conduct between Jeffrey and 
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In Count 46 we have flight records that 
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indicate that on May 6th, 2005 Epstein, 
and 
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traveled to Palm Beach County on the 
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Gulfstream. 
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we have also telephonic contact between 
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and 
either the day before or the 
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day of travel and we have the sexual conduct between 
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Epstein and 
, and in Count 47 on May 19th, 2005 
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we have flight records that indicate Epstein, 
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and 
traveled to Palm Beach County on 
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the Gulfstream and we have telephone contact between 
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and 
the day before or the day 
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of travel. 
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we also have the sexual conduct between 
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Epstein and 
as described in the earlier 
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count, Count 7. 
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Now, if I could direct your attention to Count 
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number 51 which appears on page 33, that is the sex 
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trafficking of a minor involving Jane Doe number 3, and 
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could you briefly summarize that, the evidence related 
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to that. 
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As we discussed earlier in count 7, I told you 
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guys about the sexual conduct between Epstein and 
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, the monies that were paid to 
by 
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Mr. Epstein, the phone activity we discussed between 
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and 
, it began in December, 
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and we also have phone calls beginning in January from 
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to 
, at that time 
was 17 
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years of age, and we also have statements from 
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and 
regarding Mr. Epstein's knowledge of their 
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ages. 
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And with respect to the affect on interstate 
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commerce related to that count we have both the 
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telephone calls, correct? 
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Yes. 
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As well as Mr. Epstein actually traveling in 
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interstate commerce to engage in this activity, correct? 
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Yes, we do. 
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Is there anything else that you would like to 
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mention about Jane Doe number 3? 
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Not at this time, no. 
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If I could direct you to Jane Doe number 4 and 
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if you could summarize for the Grand Jury the 
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information related to Jane Doe number 4's activities. 
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Jane Doe number 4 is IIIII I, I think you 
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wanted their birth dates, her birth date is 
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, she was 16 years old and attended 
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we first have contact through phone calls from 
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to 
on April 25th, 2004 which 
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indicates and shows that 
was clearly 16 years of 
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age when she started going to Mr. Epstein's and 
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performing massages for Mr. Epstein. 
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I, our Jane Doe number 1, was the one 
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who recruited 
, she basically told 
that she 
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could make $200, she needed to dress cute, he might try 
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to touch you, but if you feel uncomfortable just let him 
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know and he will stop, and the first massage that 
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did he repeatedly told 
, and I mentioned this to 
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you in the last Grand Jury session, she was very shy and 
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he would repeatedly tell her not to be so shy, that she 
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didn't have to be so shy. 
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Epstein asked her to remove her clothing and 
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she told him no, and throughout the massage he would 
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repeatedly grab at her, 
he did 
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through this first massage and pulled her 
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clothes, she would pull away and she was paid $200 for 
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that. 
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Upon leaving the first massage Mr. Epstein 
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told 
that if 
was willing to do more she 
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would get paid more. He also informed 
that if she 
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would bring her pretty friends he would also pay her for 
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bringing her pretty friends. He told 
that 
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would get her phone number. 
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says that she performed three to four 
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massages for Mr. Epstein. we have with 
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approximately a hundred phone calls between 
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and 
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when I interviewed 
she became very upset 
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when we got to the sexual massages that she did for 
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Mr. Epstein. At this point, this is as much as we know 
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at this point of what occurred with Mr. Epstein and 
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she did three to four massages and those last 
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massages they became more sexual in nature, he asked her 
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again to remove her clothing, this time she took her 
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shirt off, he asked her to take her bra off, she said 
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no. 
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He again would 
, he did continue 
this time 
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she 
He continued to compliment 
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her, tell her she had a nice body and that she was 
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pretty. 
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says that he was very nice and engaged 
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her in conversation, asked her, you know, if she had a 
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boyfriend. In the last massage she discusses with me, 
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and this massage Mr. Epstein told her to stop being shy 
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and asked her to take her clothes off and 
said 
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that she had a boyfriend and she didn't feel comfortable 
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taking her clothes off and he told her you should know 
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what to expect by now when you come here, and he jerked 
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on her pants as to like jerk them down, so she did on 
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this last massage get down to her bra and underwear. 
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She describes his tone at this time being 
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frustrated and irritated, she stayed in her bra and 
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underwear, but during the massage he grabbed her bra and 
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pulled it down and 
, he had 
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instructed her to 
while she 
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was massaging his chest, he tried to grab her all over, 
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he knew that she was upset with this massage. 
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At one point Mr. Epstein asked her if she had 
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sex with her boyfriend, 
informs him that she is 
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still a virgin and he responds what, you don't like sex? 
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And that's pretty much the way that last massage went. 
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Now, Special Agent 
, just to 
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interrupt you, you mentioned that lane Doe number 4 
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became very upset as you were asking her about the 
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massages, correct? 
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Yes. 
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And when she was describing this incident with 
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him grabbing at her breast and trying to pull her pants 
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down and instructing her to remove her pants, correct? 
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Yes. 
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Q 
You had talked last week about the expert that 
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you had spoken with about interviewing victims of these 
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types of offenses? 
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Right. 
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Q 
And you had told us about how a victim may be 
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reticent at first to tell the entire story until a 
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rapport is built? 
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Right. 
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Can you tell the Grand Jury your impressions 
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of your interview with 
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She became so visibly upset, and a lot of the 
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girls are embarrassed of what took place, but when she 
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talked about the last massage and him grabbing her 
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breasts and fondling her breasts she was in tears and we 
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stopped the massage and we calmed her down, trying to go 
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back there was just too difficult, I could not get her 
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back to discussing anything further that had taken 
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place. 
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I have since then -- I have since talked to 
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again and I feel there is more there, but I just 
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don't think she is ready to disclose what took place. 
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So based upon the more than 60 telephone calls 
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as well as --
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Approximately a hundred. 
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Q 
-- 100 telephone calls and your conversations 
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with 
you think there is probably more than four 
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massages that happened? 
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Yes, I do. 
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Q 
was there anything else that you wanted to 
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discuss with the Grand Jury? 
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Just, as I stated in the beginning of those 
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massages, they engaged in conversation and throughout 
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that conversation, you know, she did inform mr. Epstein 
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that she was a junior in high school and again she is 
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one of the girls that talks about 
being Mr. 
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Epstein's favorite, so because Mr. Epstein knew they 
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were friends they would engage in conversation about 
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, and 
would mention they were in the 
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and they would discuss the friendship 
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they had between the two girls with Mr. Epstein and 
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think that's it. 
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All right. If we could turn to the 
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post-indictment to overt act number 4 which appears on 
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page number 5. 
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Did you obtain telephone records for Jane Doe 
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number 4? 
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Yes. 
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And did you compare those with the phone 
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records of 
and others? 
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Yes, I did. 
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And can you tell us with respect to overt act 
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number 4 what evidence you have related to that? 
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A review of the phone records indicate that 
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there was telephonic contact between the numbers 
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belonging to 
and 
as well as 
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statements that 
would call her to make 
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And if we could go through overt acts 6, 8, 9 
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A review of the phone records on may 3rd, 
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2004, may 14th, 2004, May 20th, 2004 and June 3rd, 2004, 
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a review of those phone records indicate that there was 
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telephonic contact between numbers belonging to IIIII 
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IIIIII and IIIII as well as IIIIIII statements. 
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If I could take you to overt acts 14, 15 and 
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19 which appear on page 7. 
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A review of the phone records on June 11th, 
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2004, June 20th, 2004 and July 10th, 2004, they indicate 
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that there is telephonic contact between the numbers 
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belonging to 
and 
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And if I could ask you to turn to page 8 and 
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if you could address overt acts 24 and 25. 
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A review of the phone records on July 18th, 
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2004 and July 22nd, 2004, a review of 
and 
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phone records indicate there is 
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telephonic contact belonging to both of them as well as 
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statements that 
would arrange 
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appointments with her. 
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If I could take you to page 9 of the draft 
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proposed indictment and ask about overt acts 29 and 30. 
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A review of the phone records indicate there 
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2004 between numbers belonging to 
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If I could take you to page 10 of the draft 
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proposed indictment and ask you about overt acts 37 and 
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43. 
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A review of phone records indicate telephonic 
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contact on August 25th, 2004 and October 3rd, 2004 
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between numbers belonging to 
and 
9 
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And if you could turn to page 11 of the draft 
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proposed indictment and if you would address overt acts 
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47 and 48. 
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A review of the phone records indicate 
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telephonic contact on October 30th, 2004 and November 
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4th, 2004 between numbers belonging to 
and 
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I, as well 
statements. 
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Okay. And if you could go to page 14 of the 
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draft proposed indictment and address overt act number 
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77. 
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A review of phone records indicate that on 
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January 4th, 2005 there was telephonic contact between 
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and 
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statements. 
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I'm sorry. If you could turn to page 16 of 
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the draft proposed indictment and address overt act 
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A review of the phone records indicate that on 
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January 22, 2005 there is telephonic phone contact 
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between numbers belonging to IIIII IIIIII and 'III' and 
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I believe I said on January 22nd, 2005. 
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Okay. And if you could go to page 17 and 
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address overt act number 101. 
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on February 14th, 2005 a review of the phone 
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records indicate that there was telephonic contact on 
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that day between numbers belonging to SIIIIII 
and 
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I, as well as 
statements. 
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If you could turn to pages 18 and 19 and if 
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you would address overt acts 106, 114 and 116. 
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A review of the phone records indicate that 
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there is telephonic contact between 
and 
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on February 24th, 2005 as well as 
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statements. 
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Overt act number 114 says on March 18th, 2005 
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defendant 
prepared a written message to defendant 
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Epstein regarding Jane Doe number 4, could you tell the 
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Grand Jury what the evidence is related to that? 
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we have a review of the message pads that were 
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recovered during the search warrant that the state 
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served that showed that 
wrote a message to 
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Epstein regarding 
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Do you happen to remember what the message 
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I have those with me. 
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would you mind getting them out? 
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Do you want to mark it? 
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Q 
If you could just read it to the Grand Jury. 
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It is a message written by 
for Jeffrey 
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on 3/18/2005, it looks like 4:21 p.m., and the message 
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reads is it okay if 
will come at 5:00 and there is 
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a question mark. 
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And if I could direct you to overt act number 
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116, what the evidence is related to that. 
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A review of the phone records on march 29th, 
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2005 indicate that there is telephonic contact between 
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and 
as well as her --
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statements. 
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And if I could take you to overt act number 
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127 which is on page 20. 
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A review of phone records on April 11th, 2005 
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indicate that there is telephonic phone contact between 
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the numbers belonging to 
and 
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statements. 
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Now, if you could go to Count number 8, which 
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Jane Doe number 4 to engage in sexual activity or 
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On or about these dates we have a facility of 
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interstate commerce, specifically the telephones, IIIII 
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7 
, 
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and 
, which were utilized to 
set up, arrange massage appointments for Epstein, we 
8 
have IIIII IIIIII taking IIIII upstairs to set up the 
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massage table, she would set the massage table up as 
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well as set up the lotions and the oils, we have during 
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those massages Epstein would grab and pull IIIII closer 
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to him as he 
, he repeatedly would ask her to 
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remove her clothing, wearing 
Epstein would pull down 
her bra and 
her bra and 
underwear, 
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he attempted to 
at one point 
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but she stopped him, he 
, she believes that 
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he paid her $200, he told her that he 
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would pay her to bring her pretty friends and would pay 
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her more if she would do more. 
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Q 
And just so that this is clear to the Grand 
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Jury, June 29th of 2005 is the day before Jane Doe 
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number 4 turned 18, is that correct? 
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Yes. 
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Q 
So was there activity that continued past her 
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Yes. 
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Q 
If I could direct you to count number 17, 
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which appears on page 28, and tell us about the evidence 
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related to that. 
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A 
we have evidence through flight records that 
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indicate on May 21st, 2004 that Epstein and 
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traveled to Palm Beach County on the 
8 
Gulfstream, we have telephonic contact between 
and 
9 
the day before or the day of travel and we 
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have the sexual conduct between Epstein and 
as we 
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described earlier in Count 8. 
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And if you could go through Counts 18 and 19. 
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we have flight records that indicate on June 
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4th, 2004 Epstein and 
traveled to Palm 
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Beach County on the Gulfstream, we have telephone 
16 
contact between 
and 
the day before, 
17 
the day of travel, we have sexual conduct between 
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Mr. Epstein and 
as discussed earlier. 
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we have also Count 19 on June 20th, 2004 we 
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have flight records that indicate that Epstein and 
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traveled to Palm Beach county on the Boeing 
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727. 
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we have the telephone contacts between 
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and 
the day before, the day of travel, we 
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Could you do the same for counts 22 and 23, 
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please. 
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Count 22 we have flight records that indicate 
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on July 22nd, 2004 Epstein, 
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traveled to Palm Beach County on the Boeing 
7 
727, we have the telephonic phone contact between 
8 
and 
the day before or the day of travel, we 
9 
also have the sexual conduct between Jeffrey Epstein and 
10 
as we described earlier, and Count 23 we have 
11 
flight records that indicate on August 6th, 2004 Epstein 
12 
and 
traveled to Palm Beach County on the 
13 
Boeing 727, we have telephonic contact between 
14 
and 
two days prior to Epstein and 
15 
traveling to Palm Beach County, we have sexual 
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conduct between Jeffrey Epstein and 
as we 
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described earlier. 
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Q 
And if you could do the same for Count number 
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28, please. 
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Count number 28 we have flight records that 
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indicate on November 5th, 2004 Epstein, 
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traveled to Palm Beach County on the 
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Gulfstream, we have telephonic contact between 
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and 
I the day before or the day of travel, 
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we have the sexual conduct between Epstein and 
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Q 
And if I could direct you to Count number 35, 
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you testified previously about the people who were 
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aboard the plane. 
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was there also telephone contact on January 
5 
6th -- excuse me, shortly before the flight on January 
6 
6th, 2005 between 
and this Jane Doe? 
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A 
Yes, two days before. 
8 
Q 
And if you look at Count number 40, again, you 
9 
had previously told us about who was on board the plane. 
10 
Can you tell us whether there was also telephone contact 
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shortly before that? 
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A 
There was telephone contact the day of or the 
13 
day before. 
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Q 
All right. Between who and who? 
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A 
Between 
and 
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Q 
okay. And if you could look at Count 43, you 
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also had testified previously about who was aboard the 
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plane on that day. 
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was there also telephone contact between Jane 
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Doe number 4 -- excuse me, Jane Doe number 4 and 
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Yes, two days before. 
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Q 
And if I could direct you to Count number 52, 
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which is the sex trafficking offense, and if you could 
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to that. 
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we discussed in Count 8 the sexual conduct 
that occurred between 
and Epstein during the 
massages that took place, we talked about the money that 
5 
was paid to her by Mr. Epstein and the offer of more 
6 
money if she would do more as well as if she would bring 
7 
her friends. 
8 
Through 
statements we have also that 
9 
has paid her in the past for bringing a 
10 
friend, we have the phone activity between 
11 
and 
which started in April, 2004, we know 
12 
was 16 at the time, we also have phone activity between 
13 
and 
beginning in the spring of 2005 
14 
when 
would be 17, with the statements of 
and 
15 
the knowledge that Mr. Epstein knew their age, 
16 
and we have gone through that regarding 
informing 
17 
Mr. Epstein that she was a junior in high school, that 
18 
she was 
, and then 
19 
statements that 
was concerned because she was 
20 
discussing prom with Mr. Epstein, and both girls at that 
21 
time of the phone calls were under the age of 18. 
22 
Q 
Just again so it is clear for the Grand Jury, 
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neither 
nor 
ever specifically said hey, 
24 
Jeffrey, I am 17, but they provided information that 
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should have caused him to try to figure out whether in 
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fact they were adults? 
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A 
Yes. 
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Q 
Any questions about Jane Doe number 4 before 
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we turn to Jane Doe number 5? Yes, 
A GRAND JUROR: I have to say something here, 
6 
if it is a stupid question forgive me if it is, 
7 
from what I heard, maybe I heard wrong, there were 
8 
three to four massages that Jane Doe, 
or 
9 
I said that she had and you enumerated quite 
10 
a few sexual contact. 
11 
How do you know about this, do you have 
12 
records, how do you know they were sexual contact? 
13 
THE WITNESS: Through interviewing 
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A GRAND JUROR: She said she only had three to 
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four massages. 
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A GRAND JUROR: Her question is more like 
17 
there is 20 phone calls. 
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A GRAND JUROR: There is tons of them. 
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THE WITNESS: Exactly, that is what we were 
20 
discussing earlier when we discussed that there is 
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more than what 
is willing to admit at this 
22 
time. 
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A GRAND JUROR: I got Tt. So she said she 
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only had three to four. 
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A GRAND JUROR: There is a hundred phone 
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A GRAND JUROR: You said you found out through 
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, 1 am a little bit confused about that. 
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THE WITNESS: Through interviewing 
, she 
5 
stated that she had three or four massages from 
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Mr. Epstein. 
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BY 
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Q 
Special Agent 
, the sexual activity 
9 
that you described that 
went through, that is what 
10 
she said happened during those three to four massages, 
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correct? 
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A 
Right. 
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Q 
Does that answer your question? 
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A GRAND JUROR: Not really. How do we know 
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like about all these 25, 30? 
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A GRAND JUROR: There is more dates that match 
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up with the amount of massages. 
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A GRAND JUROR: There were a hundred phone 
19 
calls. 
20 
A GRAND JUROR: Are we supposed to assume a 
21 
phone call was made each time they had sexual 
22 
contact? 
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THE WITNESS: No. There are lots of phone 
24 
calls made arranging appointments between the 
25 
girls, that doesn't mean that every phone call that 
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was made was a trip over to Mr. Epstein's house to 
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A GRAND JUROR: Couldn't they put anything in 
5 
this indictment about stalking her, are there any 
6 
rules against stalking children? 
7 
: I will address -- that is a 
8 
legal question that I will address when the special 
9 
Agent is outside of the Grand Jury. Any other 
10 
factual questions related? 
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A GRAND JUROR: I don't have a question 
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relating to Jane Doe number 4, it was a question 
13 
asked last week, what does Mr. Epstein do for work, 
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how does he make his money? I asked that late, 
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late in the game last week. 
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: okay, I guess we can just 
17 
address that now. 
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BY III 
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Q 
what is Mr. Epstein's state of profession? 
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A 
He is an investor. 
21 
Q 
And he manages portfolios valued at about a 
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billion or more? 
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A 
Yes. 
24 
Q 
who is his best known client? 
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The owner of the Limited and victoria Secret. 
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And you mentioned that as gifts Mr. Epstein 
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Yes. 
4 
Q 
Does that answer the question? 
5 
A GRAND JUROR: Yes. 
6 
Yes, ma'am. 
7 
A GRAND JUROR: Count 28 I thought I heard 
8 
that -- I thought I heard the detective say that it 
9 
was the Gulfstream rather than the Boeing 727 on 
10 
flight records, just for your info. 
11 
: Count number 28, let's go back 
12 
there. 
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BY 
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Q 
Could you restate for the Grand Jury which 
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company owns the Gulfstream? 
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A 
The Gulfstream is owned by Hyperion Air, Inc. 
17 
Q 
And the Boeing is owned by whom? 
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A 
JEGE, Inc. 
19 
Q 
Any other questions before we go on to Jane 
20 
Doe number 5? we have four minutes. 
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Special Agent 
, why don't I ask you 
22 
to step outside so I can answer that question for the 
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Grand Jury and address some issues. 
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Surrounding text: I CE